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48 Кб, 900x770Hello Ruski bros! I have an important question. How does an average Ruski view Dugin? 
# OP 49659162 В конец треда | Веб
# OP 49659162 В конец треда | ВебHello Ruski bros!
I have an important question.
How does an average Ruski view Dugin?
I have an important question.
How does an average Ruski view Dugin?
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Оппозиция 3 49659200
Оппозиция 3 49659200дугин это чернильница
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 4 49659244>>59195
Ok, I get that, it was just kinda hard to formulate the question.
Lets try again: how is Dugin viewed in Russia (by them who have an opinion about him)?
Thanks for the answer :3
Ok, I get that, it was just kinda hard to formulate the question.
Lets try again: how is Dugin viewed in Russia (by them who have an opinion about him)?
Thanks for the answer :3
Ненасытный Зигфрид 1 пост 
5 49659266
5 49659266>>59162 (OP)
He's unknown to the most of people. Average people don't know he exist. He is known only in 4chan where he is presented like a mastermind behind everything, and here on 2ch he is known just as a schizo freak who you can laugh at but never take seriously
>average
>Dugin
He's unknown to the most of people. Average people don't know he exist. He is known only in 4chan where he is presented like a mastermind behind everything, and here on 2ch he is known just as a schizo freak who you can laugh at but never take seriously
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6 49659338Смелый Люцифер Морнингстар 1 пост 7 49659420
7 49659420>>59244
Дугин это главный идеолог в России. Россия является частью Азиатского мира. После сегодняшних событий это стало намного яснее.
Дугин это главный идеолог в России. Россия является частью Азиатского мира. После сегодняшних событий это стало намного яснее.
Сексуальная Бабка Бабариха 3 поста 
Либертарианство 8 49659425
Либертарианство 8 49659425>>59162 (OP)
The average resident of Russia does not know about his existence. Most people, having listened to his nonsense, will think that this is something incomprehensible and will respectfully remain silent. A minority simply states that he is crazy. His ideas had value only because they were beneficial at a certain political moment.
The average resident of Russia does not know about his existence. Most people, having listened to his nonsense, will think that this is something incomprehensible and will respectfully remain silent. A minority simply states that he is crazy. His ideas had value only because they were beneficial at a certain political moment.
Двуличный Емеля 3 поста 9 49659435
9 49659435>>59244
He is known mostly by his nazbol past.
Currently he is viewed by intellectuals as a philosopher, sort of academical. Atm he lacks any kind of political power of affilation with someone important. He knows people and stuff, but he is not an important ideologist anymore (not in mainstream politics, not in marginal one)
He is known mostly by his nazbol past.
Currently he is viewed by intellectuals as a philosopher, sort of academical. Atm he lacks any kind of political power of affilation with someone important. He knows people and stuff, but he is not an important ideologist anymore (not in mainstream politics, not in marginal one)
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 10 49659441>>59266 >>59338
Very interesting
Do you think Punya listens to him? I've heard him being called "Putin's Rasputin"
Would my analysis be right: Dugin wants to please his master, by offering a philosophy suitable for corrupted Russian elite, and there's no more profound substance to be found behind his thinking?
Very interesting
Do you think Punya listens to him? I've heard him being called "Putin's Rasputin"
Would my analysis be right: Dugin wants to please his master, by offering a philosophy suitable for corrupted Russian elite, and there's no more profound substance to be found behind his thinking?
Двуличный Емеля 3 поста 11 49659489
11 49659489>>59425
By the way, finngolbrp. People with this icon follow a libertarian party, whose leader is an official pedophile, who has written how he wants to fuck a throat of an underaged girls.
The biggest degenerates in whole russia.
By the way, finngolbrp. People with this icon follow a libertarian party, whose leader is an official pedophile, who has written how he wants to fuck a throat of an underaged girls.
The biggest degenerates in whole russia.
Ласковая Маркиза де Мертей 1 пост 
Nya 12 49659568
Nya 12 49659568
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 13 49659573>>59425 >>59435
Who do you view the most important Russian thinker(s) then, if not Dugin? Who r the most respected ones?
>>59420
Хотите верьте, хотите нет, но в этом действительно есть смысл, если смотреть на вещи со стороны.
К сожалению. Я думаю, что величайшей ошибкой российских лидеров является доверие к Распутину или его реинкарнации.
Я всегда рад слышать, что мои братья Руски видят их чушь насквозь.
Who do you view the most important Russian thinker(s) then, if not Dugin? Who r the most respected ones?
>>59420
Хотите верьте, хотите нет, но в этом действительно есть смысл, если смотреть на вещи со стороны.
К сожалению. Я думаю, что величайшей ошибкой российских лидеров является доверие к Распутину или его реинкарнации.
Я всегда рад слышать, что мои братья Руски видят их чушь насквозь.
# OP 14 49659630
>>59489
Are u talking about him?
Is every party leader a pedophile in Russia?
Have you heard about Anunnaki pedophile-vampire conspiracy? It's scary
Are u talking about him?
Is every party leader a pedophile in Russia?
Have you heard about Anunnaki pedophile-vampire conspiracy? It's scary
Свирепый Хапс 1 пост 15 49659643
15 49659643>>59162 (OP)
I think Dugin is hyesos (cocksucker) because his ideas are for mom's fascists only.
I hate all kinds of fascists.
I think Dugin is hyesos (cocksucker) because his ideas are for mom's fascists only.
I hate all kinds of fascists.
Сексуальная Бабка Бабариха 3 поста Либертарианство 16 49659658
Либертарианство 16 49659658>>59441
Putin and half of his entourage have their own cartoons in their heads. They are most fully expressed by the program "military secret with Igor Prokopenko". This is imperial grandeur, mixed with conspiracy theories and some clichés of the culture of the 90s. In general, this worldview is shared by a significant part of the population aged 40+. But the population is forced to interact with reality, they need to earn money and look for a better life. Putin and his friends do not have such a problem and they have long been immersed in their thoughts, breaking away from the real world. Dugin and other "thinkers" simply decorate with ruffles the picture that already exists in the minds of the elite.
Putin and half of his entourage have their own cartoons in their heads. They are most fully expressed by the program "military secret with Igor Prokopenko". This is imperial grandeur, mixed with conspiracy theories and some clichés of the culture of the 90s. In general, this worldview is shared by a significant part of the population aged 40+. But the population is forced to interact with reality, they need to earn money and look for a better life. Putin and his friends do not have such a problem and they have long been immersed in their thoughts, breaking away from the real world. Dugin and other "thinkers" simply decorate with ruffles the picture that already exists in the minds of the elite.
Двуличный Емеля 3 поста 17 49659667
17 49659667>>59573
There are noone. We have no strong ideology atm. There are a plenty of "thinkers" and there a plenty of political powers, but not both. Political camps are quite understandable and superficial, usually tied to an oligarch.
>Who do you view the most important Russian thinker(s) then, if not Dugin? Who r the most respected ones?
There are noone. We have no strong ideology atm. There are a plenty of "thinkers" and there a plenty of political powers, but not both. Political camps are quite understandable and superficial, usually tied to an oligarch.
Игривый Доктор Хаус 2 поста 18 49659736
18 49659736>>59162 (OP)
I suppose, doesn't care. I don't think, AG is really famous in Russia.
>>59573
My classmate told, that most important Russian thinker is Galkovsky, lol.
>How does an average Ruski view Dugin?
I suppose, doesn't care. I don't think, AG is really famous in Russia.
>>59573
>Who do you view the most important Russian thinker(s) then, if not Dugin? Who r the most respected ones?
My classmate told, that most important Russian thinker is Galkovsky, lol.
Сексуальная Бабка Бабариха 3 поста Либертарианство 19 49659760
Либертарианство 19 49659760>>59573
The search for analogies is an anti-scientific way of knowing the world. Neither Dugin nor any other living philosopher is in any way capable of influencing the politics of Russia today. The philosophy that guides Putin and his entourage was invented centuries ago by people who are long dead. It's just ressentiment and phantom pains. This is an attempt to bring back the good old days that never really existed.
The search for analogies is an anti-scientific way of knowing the world. Neither Dugin nor any other living philosopher is in any way capable of influencing the politics of Russia today. The philosophy that guides Putin and his entourage was invented centuries ago by people who are long dead. It's just ressentiment and phantom pains. This is an attempt to bring back the good old days that never really existed.
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 20 49660362>>59643
It's really hard for me to understand, how can Dugin provoke fascism & nazism openly in Russia. One could think of people like him being beaten until they'd shut up.
>>59658 >>59760
So Dugin has tried to offer elite & people a fantasy, but failed to understand the realities when it comes to what people really want? Or then just doesn't simply care about what's the price for people?
If there would be a one title for him, would "main propagandist" be the most suitable? Or is it an exaggeration?
How would you put this shortly? Are you sure that Dugin ain't part of the continuation? A glue which binds the modern into old?
>>59667
Do you sense that there exists a vacuum for something new? Or something that is already existing, but there's no one to sum it all up?
>>59736
Who is AG?
And who is Galkovsky? (I'll try do some googling)
It's really hard for me to understand, how can Dugin provoke fascism & nazism openly in Russia. One could think of people like him being beaten until they'd shut up.
>>59658 >>59760
So Dugin has tried to offer elite & people a fantasy, but failed to understand the realities when it comes to what people really want? Or then just doesn't simply care about what's the price for people?
If there would be a one title for him, would "main propagandist" be the most suitable? Or is it an exaggeration?
>entourage was invented centuries ago by people who are long dead
How would you put this shortly? Are you sure that Dugin ain't part of the continuation? A glue which binds the modern into old?
>>59667
Do you sense that there exists a vacuum for something new? Or something that is already existing, but there's no one to sum it all up?
>>59736
Who is AG?
And who is Galkovsky? (I'll try do some googling)
Решительный Вертер 2 поста 21 49660539
21 49660539>>59441
This role better fits to Vladislav Surkov putin's advisor, he creator of idea of so called "Russian World" and "Sovereign Democracy", was also responsible for the events of 2014-2015 in Ukraine (shadow cardinal).
>Putin's Rasputin
This role better fits to Vladislav Surkov putin's advisor, he creator of idea of so called "Russian World" and "Sovereign Democracy", was also responsible for the events of 2014-2015 in Ukraine (shadow cardinal).
Креативный Чук 1 пост 22 49660546
22 49660546>>59162 (OP)
Duginism is a primitive pro-British propaganda for wild people: that as well as British people Russians are not really Europeans but Eurasians who don't need happiness, money and brains, must do everything through butt and shit on own and others' freedoms and rights because they are "Western", and other such bullshit. And that everything in the world is explainable through "geopolitics" - pseudoscientifical potsreotic mapjerking.
His time passed in the first half of 90's as well as Limonov's, Letov's and Zhirinovsky's. His worldview is so fucking outdated, blyat, it's like Medvedev who thinks that "youth" will appreciate his declared listening "Deep Purple".
So no, extremely not interesting. For example here on sosach he is never discussed because there is fucking nothing to discuss, it's just pro-British colonial narrative and that's all.
Duginism is a primitive pro-British propaganda for wild people: that as well as British people Russians are not really Europeans but Eurasians who don't need happiness, money and brains, must do everything through butt and shit on own and others' freedoms and rights because they are "Western", and other such bullshit. And that everything in the world is explainable through "geopolitics" - pseudoscientifical potsreotic mapjerking.
His time passed in the first half of 90's as well as Limonov's, Letov's and Zhirinovsky's. His worldview is so fucking outdated, blyat, it's like Medvedev who thinks that "youth" will appreciate his declared listening "Deep Purple".
So no, extremely not interesting. For example here on sosach he is never discussed because there is fucking nothing to discuss, it's just pro-British colonial narrative and that's all.
Ленивая Лиса Патрикеевна 2 поста 23 49660568
23 49660568Dugin is a PIDORANDEL, fucking VATNIK and must be executed. That's all,
Решительный Вертер 2 поста 24 49660584
24 49660584>>60539
He also author of system of political control called "Nonlinear warfare"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tyop0d30UqQ&t
He also author of system of political control called "Nonlinear warfare"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tyop0d30UqQ&t
Подлая Лилу 1 пост 25 49660631
25 49660631>>59162 (OP)
Some retard who whisperes in Putin's ear. He isn't present in Russian media at all, only works for the Western audience.
Some retard who whisperes in Putin's ear. He isn't present in Russian media at all, only works for the Western audience.
10 Кб, 185x272Решительный Гринготт 2 поста 
Либерализм 26 49660665
Либерализм 26 49660665Dugin
average Ruski: who?
/po/рашник: picrelated
average Ruski: who?
/po/рашник: picrelated
Игривый Доктор Хаус 2 поста 27 49660675
27 49660675>>60362
It is Dugins initials. His full name is Alexander G. Dugin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Galkovsky
>Who is AG?
It is Dugins initials. His full name is Alexander G. Dugin.
>And who is Galkovsky?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Galkovsky
Мудрый Годрик Гриффиндор 1 пост 28 49660697
28 49660697Hey guys, deliver a picture of the essence of Eurasianism
Решительный Гринготт 2 поста Либерализм 29 49660716
Либерализм 29 49660716Sergey Pakhomov "Поехавший (Nutdriver)" of philosophy world
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 30 49660884>>60539 >>60584
I'll write his name down. And study him.
He's not in power anymore, or..? Why is that?
>>60546
You are right. Obsession about geopolitics is the greatest tragedy of the planet.
And if I may obsess about it a bit, the biggest geopolitical catastrophe (like Punya says) is not the collapse of CCCP. It is the west-Russo-relations. We'll all end up paying for this.
Btw, Zhirinovsky used to be called as "Finnish eater" in our media like a decade ago.
>>60568
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1538768282785697792
Idk if any of that's true tho.
I'll write his name down. And study him.
He's not in power anymore, or..? Why is that?
>>60546
You are right. Obsession about geopolitics is the greatest tragedy of the planet.
And if I may obsess about it a bit, the biggest geopolitical catastrophe (like Punya says) is not the collapse of CCCP. It is the west-Russo-relations. We'll all end up paying for this.
Btw, Zhirinovsky used to be called as "Finnish eater" in our media like a decade ago.
>>60568
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1538768282785697792
Idk if any of that's true tho.
Безумная Миледи 1 пост 
Технократия 31 49660941
Технократия 31 49660941Саркастичный Кинг-Конг 1 пост 32 49660969
32 49660969>>59162 (OP)
Плохо, данный специфический контент исключительно на любителя.
Плохо, данный специфический контент исключительно на любителя.
Нежный Джим Хокинс 3 поста 34 49661111
34 49661111>>59244
Freak, asshole, probably a drug addict and literally faggot - the latter is for sure. Also used to be very popular among our retarded brothers hohols who easily fall for cultist crap like the one he preaches. One of his former apprentices and lovers is now a talking head for the Ukrainian government and the defence, and must admit, he is doing his job pretty well.
Freak, asshole, probably a drug addict and literally faggot - the latter is for sure. Also used to be very popular among our retarded brothers hohols who easily fall for cultist crap like the one he preaches. One of his former apprentices and lovers is now a talking head for the Ukrainian government and the defence, and must admit, he is doing his job pretty well.
15 Кб, 362x294 # OP 35 49661123>>60969
Everybody in west minded their own business, we were busy with our lives. Only recently we've started asking questions like "Srsly, wtf is going on in Russia btw?"
Everybody in west minded their own business, we were busy with our lives. Only recently we've started asking questions like "Srsly, wtf is going on in Russia btw?"
199 Кб, 700x700 # OP 36 49661230>>61111
Dude. Someone should really dig into things if such organizations like Azov is a putinist (or duginist) plot. You might find it absurd, I realize that. But here you must realize that Kreml has been known to support neo-nazi organizations in west, even in Finland (and other Nordics.)
Dude. Someone should really dig into things if such organizations like Azov is a putinist (or duginist) plot. You might find it absurd, I realize that. But here you must realize that Kreml has been known to support neo-nazi organizations in west, even in Finland (and other Nordics.)
Очаровательная Зена 1 пост 37 49661291
37 49661291>>61230
Кремль вообще не зациклен на идеологии в этот раз
Поддерживают всех кто может принести выгоду в дальнейшей геополитической борьбе
Поддержка Азова Кремлем это реально шиза, что не мешает поддерживать правые партии в Европе ради сиюминутной или долговременной выгоды
Кремль вообще не зациклен на идеологии в этот раз
Поддерживают всех кто может принести выгоду в дальнейшей геополитической борьбе
Поддержка Азова Кремлем это реально шиза, что не мешает поддерживать правые партии в Европе ради сиюминутной или долговременной выгоды
Нежный Джим Хокинс 3 поста 38 49661380
38 49661380>>61230
Kremlin can't into long-term plans. There has been a negative selection of their 'elite' for like 20 years, that's why they rely on all those shitty witches like Dugin who tell fortune by squeezing a goat's testicles.
We would not be waging stupid a war on Ukraine if it wasn't for that total degradation in the first place.
Алсо, блядь, ты ж на нашем русском там выше по треду анону отвечал, хули мы тут выебываемся сидим?
Kremlin can't into long-term plans. There has been a negative selection of their 'elite' for like 20 years, that's why they rely on all those shitty witches like Dugin who tell fortune by squeezing a goat's testicles.
We would not be waging stupid a war on Ukraine if it wasn't for that total degradation in the first place.
Алсо, блядь, ты ж на нашем русском там выше по треду анону отвечал, хули мы тут выебываемся сидим?
Жадная Барбара Гордон 2 поста 39 49661504
39 49661504>>59162 (OP)
average man doesnt know him, same as doesnt know where north, and what two elements is in H2O.
average man know names: stalin, gorbavachev, elcin,medvedev, kadirov, putin, abramobich, shoygu, galkin, chicatilo, durov.
as for me Dugin is philosopher with political ambition, who think that central asia is power, and europe culture, humanism, democracy bad. who want territorial expansia, violence. So i little dislike him. Territorial expansia must be for people. for example liberation of north corea. or maybe (not very good)for great projects. kill half people, for evolution, or to collect all power for space coonization e t.c. Territorial expansia is not need for king glory, and central asia neopheodalism is more disgusting than europe culture.
Dugin. YOU FALSICH RICH putin`s cripto-supporter. Stop promote your-self from dinland. stop eat cheese and food. come back in Russia and work for 140dollars per momth as a mancheap whore
average man doesnt know him, same as doesnt know where north, and what two elements is in H2O.
average man know names: stalin, gorbavachev, elcin,medvedev, kadirov, putin, abramobich, shoygu, galkin, chicatilo, durov.
as for me Dugin is philosopher with political ambition, who think that central asia is power, and europe culture, humanism, democracy bad. who want territorial expansia, violence. So i little dislike him. Territorial expansia must be for people. for example liberation of north corea. or maybe (not very good)for great projects. kill half people, for evolution, or to collect all power for space coonization e t.c. Territorial expansia is not need for king glory, and central asia neopheodalism is more disgusting than europe culture.
Dugin. YOU FALSICH RICH putin`s cripto-supporter. Stop promote your-self from dinland. stop eat cheese and food. come back in Russia and work for 140dollars per momth as a mancheap whore
Жадная Барбара Гордон 2 поста 40 49661626
40 49661626I have doubt that putin have deep soul and interesting about dugin. Maybe some people like stalin \ putin not very intelligent, they just playing by strong 666mln units country.
i think putin do not read dugin because, putin not interesting in science \ geography \ economy. I saw how putin half-sleeped when economy minister discuss about crisis situation.
we need to research psyhology of criminals , maniacs. for example what problem with Mariupol ??
in 2014 putin`s special force easy capture 1mln Lugansk, Doneck. small towns Slav-iansk, Kramatorsk. bUT IN 2014 PUTIN`S SAS have been stopped in mariupol, by volonters with hunter guns. so in 2022 he revenge to this city.
i think putin do not read dugin because, putin not interesting in science \ geography \ economy. I saw how putin half-sleeped when economy minister discuss about crisis situation.
we need to research psyhology of criminals , maniacs. for example what problem with Mariupol ??
in 2014 putin`s special force easy capture 1mln Lugansk, Doneck. small towns Slav-iansk, Kramatorsk. bUT IN 2014 PUTIN`S SAS have been stopped in mariupol, by volonters with hunter guns. so in 2022 he revenge to this city.
Эпатажный Веном 5 постов 41 49661647
41 49661647>>61230
Sure. And Wagner - is Poroshenko puppy.
Where is your mind?
>ke Azov is a putinist (or duginist) plot
Sure. And Wagner - is Poroshenko puppy.
Where is your mind?
Эпатажный Веном 5 постов 42 49661668
42 49661668На самом деле этот тред дугинский пиар. Можно подумать до него есть дело кому-то.
Идеолог который сыпется после второго вопроса и обиженно уходит от интервью - не идеолог, а камхора привыкшая к своим журналистам и бесплатным деньгам.
Вы ещё бы идеологию Старикова или прочих скуфей обсуждали.
Идеолог который сыпется после второго вопроса и обиженно уходит от интервью - не идеолог, а камхора привыкшая к своим журналистам и бесплатным деньгам.
Вы ещё бы идеологию Старикова или прочих скуфей обсуждали.
Эпатажный Веном 5 постов 43 49661707
43 49661707Вот вам вторая страница его последней книги:
И так вся книга. Точнее шиза разрастается и к середине книги ощущение что ты в наркоманском бреду того кто жрёт мухоморы и закуривает сальвией + стекломой.
>Государство – politeia – есть срез космоса (Государство душ у платоника Хрисипа). В нем не отражается, но выражается порядок. Государство (Платонополис) устроено от низкого к высокому и от высокого к низкому (поэзис/ноэзис). Оно учреждается в законе истины, даваемой философами, импульс делегируется стражникам, а артизаны воплощают директиву в творение эмпирических вещей. Философы создают Государство демиургически. В центре Государства стоит Мировая Душа. Это золото бытия. Это ноэтическая концентрация динамического обмена между миром идей и миром вещей. Что самое ценное? Идеи. Кто ими занимается? Философы. Политейя это когда самое ценное ставится вверху, а самое неценное - внизу. Вверху - идеи и те, кто их созерцает. Внизу - артизаны, те, кто производят вещи.
И так вся книга. Точнее шиза разрастается и к середине книги ощущение что ты в наркоманском бреду того кто жрёт мухоморы и закуривает сальвией + стекломой.
Эпатажный Веном 5 постов 45 49661737
45 49661737А вот 4-я страница >>61707
Ну может кому-то нравится такое. А мне кажется, если ты обычным языком не можешь выразить и начинаешь использовать заимствованные слова и собственные термины, то скатываешься в философский Лавкрафт, выдумывая несуществующие сущности.
>Развивая идею Мутти, мы можем соотнести Платонополис, основанный на первых 4-х гипотезах Парменида, с синтезом трех супериорных форм Политического у Аристотеля. Монархия царя философов может соседствовать с ассамблеей стражников (герусия Спарты) и местным самоуправлением артизанов. Получаем субсидиарный имперский федерализм в духе Иогана Альтуссиуса.
Ну может кому-то нравится такое. А мне кажется, если ты обычным языком не можешь выразить и начинаешь использовать заимствованные слова и собственные термины, то скатываешься в философский Лавкрафт, выдумывая несуществующие сущности.
Нежный Джим Хокинс 3 поста 46 49661766
46 49661766>>61668
Оп - хохол. Как я уже выше намекнул, старая любовь к сектантской поебене, которую высирает бородатый еблан, у них не сохнет, тому що как были отсталым племенем, так им и остаются, к сожалению.
Оп - хохол. Как я уже выше намекнул, старая любовь к сектантской поебене, которую высирает бородатый еблан, у них не сохнет, тому що как были отсталым племенем, так им и остаются, к сожалению.
Эпатажный Веном 5 постов 47 49661806
47 49661806>>61707
Философы хуевы путинизма создали демиургически государство с центром солярного-луннопопого Пыни.
>Философы создают Государство демиургически. В центре Государства стоит Мировая Душа. Это золото бытия. Это ноэтическая концентрация динамического обмена между миром идей и миром вещей
Философы хуевы путинизма создали демиургически государство с центром солярного-луннопопого Пыни.
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YARRR!!! 49 49663012>>59162 (OP)
Nobody who has to say anything good about him knows English they don't have english lessons at school yet lul, so good luck
Nobody who has to say anything good about him knows English they don't have english lessons at school yet lul, so good luck
Глупый Уильям Сейр 4 поста 50 49663467
50 49663467>>59162 (OP)
He is madman with strange thoughts which smells like soviet shit/ Not so many people want to return to USSR
> Dugin
He is madman with strange thoughts which smells like soviet shit/ Not so many people want to return to USSR
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 51 49663528>>61504
This is truly interesting. It didn't occur to me in the first place that he'd be that hated what I get from you Ruski bros.
>>61626
Dude. Your words remind me of something. There's this western investor (Bill Browder), who has said that Russia's economics is better understood thru criminology, than market sciences.
(Fun fact btw: First time I ever said 'Bill Browder' out loud in Finnish Ylilauta, I got suddenly couple of very aggressive Kremlintrolls on me. :D)
>>61647
As I said I know how it must sound to you. I realize that 100%.
Google "finnish neonazis russia support" or something like that.
I mean, Azov kinda gave the Russian state propaganda a casus belli. Most of the Azov is Russian speaking. And among the leading figures there r native Russian neonazis.
If this exact same would ever happen in Finland, I'd know for 100% Kreml's behind it. That's why I cannot help myself asking this question.)
>>61668
Серьезно, объясни. Как финский чувак, который видит в Дугине большое зло, может служить ему хорошим пиарщиком?
Я хочу знать, особенно для того, чтобы случайно не устроить ему хороший пиар.
This is truly interesting. It didn't occur to me in the first place that he'd be that hated what I get from you Ruski bros.
>>61626
Dude. Your words remind me of something. There's this western investor (Bill Browder), who has said that Russia's economics is better understood thru criminology, than market sciences.
(Fun fact btw: First time I ever said 'Bill Browder' out loud in Finnish Ylilauta, I got suddenly couple of very aggressive Kremlintrolls on me. :D)
>>61647
As I said I know how it must sound to you. I realize that 100%.
Google "finnish neonazis russia support" or something like that.
I mean, Azov kinda gave the Russian state propaganda a casus belli. Most of the Azov is Russian speaking. And among the leading figures there r native Russian neonazis.
If this exact same would ever happen in Finland, I'd know for 100% Kreml's behind it. That's why I cannot help myself asking this question.)
>>61668
Серьезно, объясни. Как финский чувак, который видит в Дугине большое зло, может служить ему хорошим пиарщиком?
Я хочу знать, особенно для того, чтобы случайно не устроить ему хороший пиар.
26 Кб, 384x378 # OP 52 49663650>>61707
Да, я уже понял, что он слишком глубоко увлечен оккультизмом и прочим.
Это на самом деле то, что это делает его намного страшнее. Я думаю, что таким деятелям, как он, нечего делать в политике. У нацистов в элите не было подобного дерьма?
>>61707
Я понимаю, что вы говорите.
>>62292
I'd gladly watch it. But I don't understand it. :( I only speak Finnish, English & Swedish (poorly.)
This is a problem in itself. Language barrier with Russians and the rest of the world. It allows figures like Dugin to get born & live without getting properly criticized from outside world.
>>63012
^
>>63467
I get that.
I get the feeling there's this push trying to bring Russia back into soviet world, but without an ideology. They are trying to reinvent something that didn't work in the first run, hoping the 2nd one would work better.
I'd be alot more convinced of the idea, if there was a convincing revisioning of the idea. I don't see one tho.
Maybe it's also that they just try to exploit the soviet nostalgy for gepolitical reasons. Like ordering a justification from conveyor belt. "Just figure something to suit our geopolitical goals, so we wouldn't seem like absolute maniacs."
Да, я уже понял, что он слишком глубоко увлечен оккультизмом и прочим.
Это на самом деле то, что это делает его намного страшнее. Я думаю, что таким деятелям, как он, нечего делать в политике. У нацистов в элите не было подобного дерьма?
>>61707
Я понимаю, что вы говорите.
>>62292
I'd gladly watch it. But I don't understand it. :( I only speak Finnish, English & Swedish (poorly.)
This is a problem in itself. Language barrier with Russians and the rest of the world. It allows figures like Dugin to get born & live without getting properly criticized from outside world.
>>63012
^
>>63467
I get that.
I get the feeling there's this push trying to bring Russia back into soviet world, but without an ideology. They are trying to reinvent something that didn't work in the first run, hoping the 2nd one would work better.
I'd be alot more convinced of the idea, if there was a convincing revisioning of the idea. I don't see one tho.
Maybe it's also that they just try to exploit the soviet nostalgy for gepolitical reasons. Like ordering a justification from conveyor belt. "Just figure something to suit our geopolitical goals, so we wouldn't seem like absolute maniacs."
Глупый Уильям Сейр 4 поста 53 49663723
53 49663723>>63650
Exactly, man! But soviet life was miserable and fullfulled by idiotic things. Queues for food and clothes, fixing a socks, washing polyethylene packets, dumb lowpaid job. Old people still remember it and would to piss to dugin fanats to mouth
>Maybe it's also that they just try to exploit the soviet nostalgy
Exactly, man! But soviet life was miserable and fullfulled by idiotic things. Queues for food and clothes, fixing a socks, washing polyethylene packets, dumb lowpaid job. Old people still remember it and would to piss to dugin fanats to mouth
Стыдливая Матушка Гусыня 1 пост 54 49663745
54 49663745>>63650
Я вам ещё в первом треде писал, пусть пишет на русском. Он на русской борде, а не мы на финской. Хули вы ему пишите на английском? Вот он демонстрирует, что может на русском писать. Дебилы, блядь.
Я вам ещё в первом треде писал, пусть пишет на русском. Он на русской борде, а не мы на финской. Хули вы ему пишите на английском? Вот он демонстрирует, что может на русском писать. Дебилы, блядь.
Глупый Уильям Сейр 4 поста 55 49663832
55 49663832>>63745
Очевидно же, что он пользуется гуглтранслейтом. На русский у него получается перевести, но с русского может и не получиться
>Вот он демонстрирует, что может на русском писать
Очевидно же, что он пользуется гуглтранслейтом. На русский у него получается перевести, но с русского может и не получиться
# OP 56 49663864>>63723
Yeah, I've heard that people used to bring used lightbulbs into workplaces, to swich 'em into working ones (and screwing the used one to replace the working one), because that was the only way to guarantee you'd had working lightbulbs at home.
I just recently heard a story from someone I know, about a dude who lived in Estonia, and he listened to Finnish radio during soviet era.
He got 25 years sentence in the gulags.
Apparently soviet icecream was good tho? (Idk if you know, but it's became a meme in Finnish imageboard recently. :D)
>>63745
Я имею в виду, что мы можем общаться на любом языке, который вам нравится. Я могу использовать гугл-переводчик, но это не оптимально.
У нас есть русские, посещающие финский имиджборд время от времени. И мы говорим с ними по-английски.
Yeah, I've heard that people used to bring used lightbulbs into workplaces, to swich 'em into working ones (and screwing the used one to replace the working one), because that was the only way to guarantee you'd had working lightbulbs at home.
I just recently heard a story from someone I know, about a dude who lived in Estonia, and he listened to Finnish radio during soviet era.
He got 25 years sentence in the gulags.
Apparently soviet icecream was good tho? (Idk if you know, but it's became a meme in Finnish imageboard recently. :D)
>>63745
Я имею в виду, что мы можем общаться на любом языке, который вам нравится. Я могу использовать гугл-переводчик, но это не оптимально.
У нас есть русские, посещающие финский имиджборд время от времени. И мы говорим с ними по-английски.
Гордый Глеб Жиглов 10 постов 57 49663887
57 49663887>>59162 (OP)
Average ryssä is dugin: all are in our debt, the west is bad, russian borders end nowhere, I don’t brush my teeth not wash my hand
(cheers from StP fren, we met the other day)
Average ryssä is dugin: all are in our debt, the west is bad, russian borders end nowhere, I don’t brush my teeth not wash my hand
(cheers from StP fren, we met the other day)
Гордый Глеб Жиглов 10 постов 58 49663912
58 49663912Свирепый Хоттабыч 1 пост 59 49663932
59 49663932>>63864
What a preposterous lies!
In truth he was raped and killed by dogs.
>He got 25 years sentence in the gulags.
What a preposterous lies!
In truth he was raped and killed by dogs.
Ехидный Урик Странный 1 пост 60 49663981
60 49663981>>59162 (OP)
He's a frick. Even pidorashkas (russian patriotic gays) understand this.
He's a frick. Even pidorashkas (russian patriotic gays) understand this.
61 Кб, 1200x627 # OP 61 49663990>>63887
I'm touched everytime I hear a Ruski using the word "ryssä" correctly. You realize it's not meant to hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it, but instead it expresses hate towards the ones who cause suffering.
Kremlintrolls tried to force ryssäviha (hate towards Russians) in our information space. We've acted the opposite, and forced a divide to use of language, that the "ryssä" wouldn't mean innocent Russians.
This is actually a true story, btw.
I think the goal there was to divide Russian minority from Finnish society, so it could work as a breeding ground for 5th column. I shit you not, there has been news that Kreml has asked from Russian minority to inform their addresses etc. in Finland. (I have 0 clue what they do with that information.)
Idk could it also be that if they sense that we'd hate you, you'd turn more easily against us.
I'm touched everytime I hear a Ruski using the word "ryssä" correctly. You realize it's not meant to hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it, but instead it expresses hate towards the ones who cause suffering.
Kremlintrolls tried to force ryssäviha (hate towards Russians) in our information space. We've acted the opposite, and forced a divide to use of language, that the "ryssä" wouldn't mean innocent Russians.
This is actually a true story, btw.
I think the goal there was to divide Russian minority from Finnish society, so it could work as a breeding ground for 5th column. I shit you not, there has been news that Kreml has asked from Russian minority to inform their addresses etc. in Finland. (I have 0 clue what they do with that information.)
Idk could it also be that if they sense that we'd hate you, you'd turn more easily against us.
# OP 62 49664001>>63990
*Turn against us more easily, this meaning the Russians even outside the Finland.
*Turn against us more easily, this meaning the Russians even outside the Finland.
Гордый Глеб Жиглов 10 постов 64 49664175
64 49664175>>63990
see fren hug fren :DDD
There is a difference indeed, but as for russians, such pejorative terms are used way more widely and tend to cover whole nations. This use is normally followed by a statement that “there’s nothing bad in the word hohol/čuhonets/pindos/žid, it’s just a nationality, and only pussies get offended” while they become a piece of pure rage once someone calls a russian katsap/moskal/ryssä because... maybe because that’s them who are this sensitive =D. And here’s the main part:
most of russians (who are mostly ryssät) really think the whole world thinks the way they do period
If a russian wants Finland to “return” to its “native haven”, he/she [spoiler(]sometimes I miss Finnish because there’s no difference)[/spoiler] thinks Finland wants its lands back. Always. If we are this aggressive, so is NATO. If we want Ukraine to cease to exist, so wants Ukrainians. Always. Very childish, yes, and explaining an average russian Finland does not want Viipuri back is the same as explaining a child that adult people don’t watch cartoons when they stay in the bedroom alone.
So that was my view about why lahtabots are still trolling Finland from inside. They just use this childishness of the people.
see fren hug fren :DDD
There is a difference indeed, but as for russians, such pejorative terms are used way more widely and tend to cover whole nations. This use is normally followed by a statement that “there’s nothing bad in the word hohol/čuhonets/pindos/žid, it’s just a nationality, and only pussies get offended” while they become a piece of pure rage once someone calls a russian katsap/moskal/ryssä because... maybe because that’s them who are this sensitive =D. And here’s the main part:
most of russians (who are mostly ryssät) really think the whole world thinks the way they do period
If a russian wants Finland to “return” to its “native haven”, he/she [spoiler(]sometimes I miss Finnish because there’s no difference)[/spoiler] thinks Finland wants its lands back. Always. If we are this aggressive, so is NATO. If we want Ukraine to cease to exist, so wants Ukrainians. Always. Very childish, yes, and explaining an average russian Finland does not want Viipuri back is the same as explaining a child that adult people don’t watch cartoons when they stay in the bedroom alone.
So that was my view about why lahtabots are still trolling Finland from inside. They just use this childishness of the people.
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66 49664333
66 49664333Ни одного слова не понятно руснявые пидоры по рсукки пишите как я а то выебу, я хуец уже надрочил.
Ебать русню ебать! Залупа! Хуец! Бутылка+русская жопа = <3
Ебать русню ебать! Залупа! Хуец! Бутылка+русская жопа = <3
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Рептилоиды 67 49664383Опасный Куросаки Ичиго 2 поста 68 49664406
68 49664406>>64175
ты хорошо подлизнул фашику, но в следующий раз постарайся засунуть язык прямо ему в анус и почисти там все, а он тебе одобрительно скажет "ты хороший русский нигер, вот есть плохие русские нигеры а ты хороший"
ты хорошо подлизнул фашику, но в следующий раз постарайся засунуть язык прямо ему в анус и почисти там все, а он тебе одобрительно скажет "ты хороший русский нигер, вот есть плохие русские нигеры а ты хороший"
# OP 69 49664524
>>64175
If I were to guess, that's the result of the massive state propaganda, censorship, and language barrier?
Yeah, we really don't Viipuri back. Neither do we want the Karelia back. Even if a Russian politician would offer them, we'd prolly deny the offer, thinking it's a huge trap. :D
Now let me show you something. This dude (Martti J. Kari is an academic & intelligence officer, famous in Finland for exposing how Russian propaganda & information warfare works.) I might have shown this before, sorry if I'm repeating myself.
I guess it's priority for them to make people fear, so they'd be more easily controlled.
Btw, in Finland "ryssäbot" has also wider meaning in Finland. It doesn't only mean the one's working from Lakhta centre, or the AI based bots. It also means the Finnish traitors being hired by Russia for pro-Kreml trolling. (Potentially hardcore-communists, or loser neo-nazi white thrash low iq idiots, or then just losers who need money and have 0 morals.) I can somewhat relate being a Kremlintroll from Russia's perspective (we all gotta make the living somehow), but for a Finn I'd say being a prostitute is way more honorable career.
I guess this is the same everywhere in the west.
If I were to guess, that's the result of the massive state propaganda, censorship, and language barrier?
Yeah, we really don't Viipuri back. Neither do we want the Karelia back. Even if a Russian politician would offer them, we'd prolly deny the offer, thinking it's a huge trap. :D
Now let me show you something. This dude (Martti J. Kari is an academic & intelligence officer, famous in Finland for exposing how Russian propaganda & information warfare works.) I might have shown this before, sorry if I'm repeating myself.
I guess it's priority for them to make people fear, so they'd be more easily controlled.
Btw, in Finland "ryssäbot" has also wider meaning in Finland. It doesn't only mean the one's working from Lakhta centre, or the AI based bots. It also means the Finnish traitors being hired by Russia for pro-Kreml trolling. (Potentially hardcore-communists, or loser neo-nazi white thrash low iq idiots, or then just losers who need money and have 0 morals.) I can somewhat relate being a Kremlintroll from Russia's perspective (we all gotta make the living somehow), but for a Finn I'd say being a prostitute is way more honorable career.
I guess this is the same everywhere in the west.
38 Кб, 657x527 # OP 70 49664605>>64406
Некоторые люди могут контактировать друг с другом, не облизывая анусы.
Подумайте об этом на секунду.
Можно утверждать, что все, что требуется, это вести себя по-человечески по отношению друг к другу.
Некоторые люди могут контактировать друг с другом, не облизывая анусы.
Подумайте об этом на секунду.
Можно утверждать, что все, что требуется, это вести себя по-человечески по отношению друг к другу.
Насмешливая Тян 9 постов 71 49664655
71 49664655>>61504
Ебать ты дядя дурак, в своем комнатном познание человечества ты докатился до презрения ко всем россиянам, считая, что ты умнее среднестатистического человека?) Мои соболезнования)
Ебать ты дядя дурак, в своем комнатном познание человечества ты докатился до презрения ко всем россиянам, считая, что ты умнее среднестатистического человека?) Мои соболезнования)
Насмешливая Тян 9 постов 72 49664786
72 49664786>>64605
After reading the thread, I can say that most of the answers addressed to you were written by room losers who did not see the world beyond their threshold, and for some reason, on the wave of their associativity, they considered themselves smarter and more educated than most citizens of the Russian Federation (and this is not the case at all), what can I say about your initial question so it's that you formulated it incorrectly, because the fact is that in the Russian Federation there is no ideology at all and there is no systematic approach to creating something surrogate, we just have a fucking Babylon after its destruction by god, one part is fanatical about Islam, the second about paganism (Wagner), the third votes for imperialism (such bullshit), the fourth wants to return to the union (more than half of people over 40), in general, our country is divided into many camps and is in such a state of Schrodinger's cat, because it is unclear whether we are whole or fragmented. One could say that the authorities are trying to fix these moments, but that would be outright nonsense, they don't care about any unifying factor for all Russians except Victory Day (this is their only "brilliant" thought about this), they haven't come up with another one yet, or rather, they don't care about it
After reading the thread, I can say that most of the answers addressed to you were written by room losers who did not see the world beyond their threshold, and for some reason, on the wave of their associativity, they considered themselves smarter and more educated than most citizens of the Russian Federation (and this is not the case at all), what can I say about your initial question so it's that you formulated it incorrectly, because the fact is that in the Russian Federation there is no ideology at all and there is no systematic approach to creating something surrogate, we just have a fucking Babylon after its destruction by god, one part is fanatical about Islam, the second about paganism (Wagner), the third votes for imperialism (such bullshit), the fourth wants to return to the union (more than half of people over 40), in general, our country is divided into many camps and is in such a state of Schrodinger's cat, because it is unclear whether we are whole or fragmented. One could say that the authorities are trying to fix these moments, but that would be outright nonsense, they don't care about any unifying factor for all Russians except Victory Day (this is their only "brilliant" thought about this), they haven't come up with another one yet, or rather, they don't care about it
Насмешливая Тян 9 постов 73 49664808
73 49664808>>64605
oh, yes, I won't say absolutely unfounded, but just take into account in your head that there are quite a few Ukrainian-speaking citizens sitting under the flag of the Russian Federation using VPN, this is not my nonsense about a global conspiracy, but quite a reality where these idiots are fighting in the information space...although, just consider it nonsense, you will still forget most of our words after a couple of weeks
oh, yes, I won't say absolutely unfounded, but just take into account in your head that there are quite a few Ukrainian-speaking citizens sitting under the flag of the Russian Federation using VPN, this is not my nonsense about a global conspiracy, but quite a reality where these idiots are fighting in the information space...although, just consider it nonsense, you will still forget most of our words after a couple of weeks
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My honest opinion if you want, such retardant thinking (and you guessed it right, low iq), it’s not the propaganda, quite the opposite in fact, it’s lack of propaganda. The propaganda in a wide sense, when people are taught about the reality, not the dreams, from the street posters, at school and so on. If some russian is not lucky enough to be born to a wealthy family in a good place or is too lucky to have everything prepared for the careless living, this russian either goes to a school where teachers don’t care about their future or has no need to think about the future at all.
In Finland the state itself cares about education and possible careers of its people a lot, and everyone knows since childhood what the adult reality is because of an excellent knowing of both the past (history first of all) and the present (sad fact btw: russian children don’t learn economics at school, just read some chapters from the book to forget on the next day). There are exceptions of course, I saw them often by the casino machines at the gas stations and on the ferries to Tallinn, they are exactly as you described :)
So, the state propaganda russia really has does not construct the parallel universe where the invincible putin fights the West, it uses the actual state of the majority, which is a low education, the culture of force, ghetto-mentality of “the more shiny stuff the better”, egocentrism, insecurity and carelessness. I would want to be wrong, but that’s how I see the situation. Was glad to see you again, my best, gotta work :)
My honest opinion if you want, such retardant thinking (and you guessed it right, low iq), it’s not the propaganda, quite the opposite in fact, it’s lack of propaganda. The propaganda in a wide sense, when people are taught about the reality, not the dreams, from the street posters, at school and so on. If some russian is not lucky enough to be born to a wealthy family in a good place or is too lucky to have everything prepared for the careless living, this russian either goes to a school where teachers don’t care about their future or has no need to think about the future at all.
In Finland the state itself cares about education and possible careers of its people a lot, and everyone knows since childhood what the adult reality is because of an excellent knowing of both the past (history first of all) and the present (sad fact btw: russian children don’t learn economics at school, just read some chapters from the book to forget on the next day). There are exceptions of course, I saw them often by the casino machines at the gas stations and on the ferries to Tallinn, they are exactly as you described :)
So, the state propaganda russia really has does not construct the parallel universe where the invincible putin fights the West, it uses the actual state of the majority, which is a low education, the culture of force, ghetto-mentality of “the more shiny stuff the better”, egocentrism, insecurity and carelessness. I would want to be wrong, but that’s how I see the situation. Was glad to see you again, my best, gotta work :)
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75 49665018>>59162 (OP)
As a former mildly-interesting and amusing counter-cultural figure, now turned into government ass clown. He is in no way a philosopher nor a political scientist, just 1960s Soviet occult counter-culture's relic. You may check out some info on "Yuzhin circle" if you're interested.
As a former mildly-interesting and amusing counter-cultural figure, now turned into government ass clown. He is in no way a philosopher nor a political scientist, just 1960s Soviet occult counter-culture's relic. You may check out some info on "Yuzhin circle" if you're interested.
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>>64655
>you think you smarter than me huh? you wrong, you dumber than me
>but I AM smarter than you because fuck you
>(some bs)
>(a bit of conspiracy)
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 78 49665633>>64786
May I ask how popular is 2ch.hk in Russia? (I think in Finland the imageboard makes it to very top in popularity of all forums.) From what I've gathered, I think that people underestimate the power of anonymous imageboards when it comes to national narratives.
Is the Wagner really that powerful? That it actually makes it to the top of national ideologies?
Also, how does the Islam show in Russian culture? We outsiders can't really see it manifesting itself. Or well, maybe nowadays we see all the videos of Chechens shooting with RPG's and yelling "Allahu akhbar!"
>>64808
In Finnish imageboards we don't have the flag system such as in 2ch.hk (except in the /int.)
Also, the Kremlintrolls use these botfarms as routers to connect to our information space. So they don't actually show as Russians, but Finns. Or Britts, or Swedes, or <insert whatever western country>.
>>64896
That's an interesting point. And it actually makes a lot of sense.
Maybe Ruskis are getting fed up with the dreams of elite. They want to have actually normal and good lives for themselves. Natural, and very logical. The Russian propaganda makes it often to headlines in western media (mostly because it's so absurd.) Maybe that's part of the problem also for us westerners, when it comes to our image of Ruskis, because we may over interpret the meaning of propaganda for Ruskis.
I'm not sure if I were taught much about economics either in school. All tho one could argue that the whole education system is aimed for kids to do well in everyday life, and find their own spot in the society, career and such. Well, maybe that was your exact point.
And yes, you are right in the sense that here the education system takes a lot of responsibility. "School and family". (Actually alot of things is condensed in those two words in our culture, when it comes to upbringing.) One could even argue that it's illegal here to suck in school too much.
We don't have anything else really than human resources. Maybe that's ended up being the greatest blessing for us. Compare this to Russia, where enormous natural resources will take care of the state. This means the state really don't need you to survive.
Btw, gambling problem is kinda a big topic in Finland. We have monopolized gambling system, so it's kinda twisted here. You see, on the other hand we see our state encouraging people to gamble. On the other hand they try to root the problem out. But do they really want it to be rooted out, because it creates huge incomes for state (which is poured directly into actually good destination: youth wellbeing, sports, combating social problems etc)..?
Was glad to hear from you too. Have a good one. :)
>>65018
Actually I was aware of the Yuzhinsky group.
This is just something that keeps boggling me. Your ancestors fought nazis. You hate nazis. And fascists. (Like we all do.)
And then there's Dugin. I mean I'd understand if he was a far-right ideologist in the west.
Well, maybe he is a bait for the far-right & neo-nazis of the west to turn into, so they'd think Russia as an ally. Or atleast as an "enemy of my enemy".
May I ask how popular is 2ch.hk in Russia? (I think in Finland the imageboard makes it to very top in popularity of all forums.) From what I've gathered, I think that people underestimate the power of anonymous imageboards when it comes to national narratives.
Is the Wagner really that powerful? That it actually makes it to the top of national ideologies?
Also, how does the Islam show in Russian culture? We outsiders can't really see it manifesting itself. Or well, maybe nowadays we see all the videos of Chechens shooting with RPG's and yelling "Allahu akhbar!"
>>64808
In Finnish imageboards we don't have the flag system such as in 2ch.hk (except in the /int.)
Also, the Kremlintrolls use these botfarms as routers to connect to our information space. So they don't actually show as Russians, but Finns. Or Britts, or Swedes, or <insert whatever western country>.
>>64896
That's an interesting point. And it actually makes a lot of sense.
Maybe Ruskis are getting fed up with the dreams of elite. They want to have actually normal and good lives for themselves. Natural, and very logical. The Russian propaganda makes it often to headlines in western media (mostly because it's so absurd.) Maybe that's part of the problem also for us westerners, when it comes to our image of Ruskis, because we may over interpret the meaning of propaganda for Ruskis.
I'm not sure if I were taught much about economics either in school. All tho one could argue that the whole education system is aimed for kids to do well in everyday life, and find their own spot in the society, career and such. Well, maybe that was your exact point.
And yes, you are right in the sense that here the education system takes a lot of responsibility. "School and family". (Actually alot of things is condensed in those two words in our culture, when it comes to upbringing.) One could even argue that it's illegal here to suck in school too much.
We don't have anything else really than human resources. Maybe that's ended up being the greatest blessing for us. Compare this to Russia, where enormous natural resources will take care of the state. This means the state really don't need you to survive.
Btw, gambling problem is kinda a big topic in Finland. We have monopolized gambling system, so it's kinda twisted here. You see, on the other hand we see our state encouraging people to gamble. On the other hand they try to root the problem out. But do they really want it to be rooted out, because it creates huge incomes for state (which is poured directly into actually good destination: youth wellbeing, sports, combating social problems etc)..?
Was glad to hear from you too. Have a good one. :)
>>65018
Actually I was aware of the Yuzhinsky group.
This is just something that keeps boggling me. Your ancestors fought nazis. You hate nazis. And fascists. (Like we all do.)
And then there's Dugin. I mean I'd understand if he was a far-right ideologist in the west.
Well, maybe he is a bait for the far-right & neo-nazis of the west to turn into, so they'd think Russia as an ally. Or atleast as an "enemy of my enemy".
48 Кб, 900x770 # OP 78 49665633>>64786
May I ask how popular is 2ch.hk in Russia? (I think in Finland the imageboard makes it to very top in popularity of all forums.) From what I've gathered, I think that people underestimate the power of anonymous imageboards when it comes to national narratives.
Is the Wagner really that powerful? That it actually makes it to the top of national ideologies?
Also, how does the Islam show in Russian culture? We outsiders can't really see it manifesting itself. Or well, maybe nowadays we see all the videos of Chechens shooting with RPG's and yelling "Allahu akhbar!"
>>64808
In Finnish imageboards we don't have the flag system such as in 2ch.hk (except in the /int.)
Also, the Kremlintrolls use these botfarms as routers to connect to our information space. So they don't actually show as Russians, but Finns. Or Britts, or Swedes, or <insert whatever western country>.
>>64896
That's an interesting point. And it actually makes a lot of sense.
Maybe Ruskis are getting fed up with the dreams of elite. They want to have actually normal and good lives for themselves. Natural, and very logical. The Russian propaganda makes it often to headlines in western media (mostly because it's so absurd.) Maybe that's part of the problem also for us westerners, when it comes to our image of Ruskis, because we may over interpret the meaning of propaganda for Ruskis.
I'm not sure if I were taught much about economics either in school. All tho one could argue that the whole education system is aimed for kids to do well in everyday life, and find their own spot in the society, career and such. Well, maybe that was your exact point.
And yes, you are right in the sense that here the education system takes a lot of responsibility. "School and family". (Actually alot of things is condensed in those two words in our culture, when it comes to upbringing.) One could even argue that it's illegal here to suck in school too much.
We don't have anything else really than human resources. Maybe that's ended up being the greatest blessing for us. Compare this to Russia, where enormous natural resources will take care of the state. This means the state really don't need you to survive.
Btw, gambling problem is kinda a big topic in Finland. We have monopolized gambling system, so it's kinda twisted here. You see, on the other hand we see our state encouraging people to gamble. On the other hand they try to root the problem out. But do they really want it to be rooted out, because it creates huge incomes for state (which is poured directly into actually good destination: youth wellbeing, sports, combating social problems etc)..?
Was glad to hear from you too. Have a good one. :)
>>65018
Actually I was aware of the Yuzhinsky group.
This is just something that keeps boggling me. Your ancestors fought nazis. You hate nazis. And fascists. (Like we all do.)
And then there's Dugin. I mean I'd understand if he was a far-right ideologist in the west.
Well, maybe he is a bait for the far-right & neo-nazis of the west to turn into, so they'd think Russia as an ally. Or atleast as an "enemy of my enemy".
May I ask how popular is 2ch.hk in Russia? (I think in Finland the imageboard makes it to very top in popularity of all forums.) From what I've gathered, I think that people underestimate the power of anonymous imageboards when it comes to national narratives.
Is the Wagner really that powerful? That it actually makes it to the top of national ideologies?
Also, how does the Islam show in Russian culture? We outsiders can't really see it manifesting itself. Or well, maybe nowadays we see all the videos of Chechens shooting with RPG's and yelling "Allahu akhbar!"
>>64808
In Finnish imageboards we don't have the flag system such as in 2ch.hk (except in the /int.)
Also, the Kremlintrolls use these botfarms as routers to connect to our information space. So they don't actually show as Russians, but Finns. Or Britts, or Swedes, or <insert whatever western country>.
>>64896
That's an interesting point. And it actually makes a lot of sense.
Maybe Ruskis are getting fed up with the dreams of elite. They want to have actually normal and good lives for themselves. Natural, and very logical. The Russian propaganda makes it often to headlines in western media (mostly because it's so absurd.) Maybe that's part of the problem also for us westerners, when it comes to our image of Ruskis, because we may over interpret the meaning of propaganda for Ruskis.
I'm not sure if I were taught much about economics either in school. All tho one could argue that the whole education system is aimed for kids to do well in everyday life, and find their own spot in the society, career and such. Well, maybe that was your exact point.
And yes, you are right in the sense that here the education system takes a lot of responsibility. "School and family". (Actually alot of things is condensed in those two words in our culture, when it comes to upbringing.) One could even argue that it's illegal here to suck in school too much.
We don't have anything else really than human resources. Maybe that's ended up being the greatest blessing for us. Compare this to Russia, where enormous natural resources will take care of the state. This means the state really don't need you to survive.
Btw, gambling problem is kinda a big topic in Finland. We have monopolized gambling system, so it's kinda twisted here. You see, on the other hand we see our state encouraging people to gamble. On the other hand they try to root the problem out. But do they really want it to be rooted out, because it creates huge incomes for state (which is poured directly into actually good destination: youth wellbeing, sports, combating social problems etc)..?
Was glad to hear from you too. Have a good one. :)
>>65018
Actually I was aware of the Yuzhinsky group.
This is just something that keeps boggling me. Your ancestors fought nazis. You hate nazis. And fascists. (Like we all do.)
And then there's Dugin. I mean I'd understand if he was a far-right ideologist in the west.
Well, maybe he is a bait for the far-right & neo-nazis of the west to turn into, so they'd think Russia as an ally. Or atleast as an "enemy of my enemy".
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79 49666000>>65633
Hahaha, dude, you can't even imagine what influence Wagner and the military content in telegram channels are now having on the active youth stratum, and, undoubtedly, Wagner popularized all sorts of pagan and Scandinavian themes in our region.
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I do not undertake to talk about Islam, because I am not in their inner kitchen, but what I can say for sure is that it is undoubtedly popular in our country among the inhabitants of the Caucasus and Bashkirs, they honor traditions, observe fasts and have some ties of kinship with each other, but thereby separate themselves from the common of the Russian population, they are undoubtedly part of our society, but let's just say that with a little alienation, unlike all other social and ideological groups
Although now a lot of Caucasians are separating from their kind and becoming more and more...ordinary or something against the general Russian background, before they still had a greater national flavor
p.s.
You know, propaganda still makes itself felt a little, and thoughts are born in my head in the style of Cold War confrontation, where you act as an analyst of some information service trying to find out some secrets, hahaha
Hahaha, dude, you can't even imagine what influence Wagner and the military content in telegram channels are now having on the active youth stratum, and, undoubtedly, Wagner popularized all sorts of pagan and Scandinavian themes in our region.
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I do not undertake to talk about Islam, because I am not in their inner kitchen, but what I can say for sure is that it is undoubtedly popular in our country among the inhabitants of the Caucasus and Bashkirs, they honor traditions, observe fasts and have some ties of kinship with each other, but thereby separate themselves from the common of the Russian population, they are undoubtedly part of our society, but let's just say that with a little alienation, unlike all other social and ideological groups
Although now a lot of Caucasians are separating from their kind and becoming more and more...ordinary or something against the general Russian background, before they still had a greater national flavor
p.s.
You know, propaganda still makes itself felt a little, and thoughts are born in my head in the style of Cold War confrontation, where you act as an analyst of some information service trying to find out some secrets, hahaha
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80 49666088>>65633
According to the manifestations of Islam in Russian culture, this is, of course, a living hell, because of the lack of state propaganda in terms of ideology, many to some extent cosplay Caucasians and their national dialect (they talk like mentally retarded, not a gram like a mountaineer, but, nevertheless, considering it funny among themselves)
p.s. These are millionaires ticktakers, the most famous mentally retarded people in our segment of the Internet, unfortunately popular among residents of Moscow and some rural residents who imitate them
According to the manifestations of Islam in Russian culture, this is, of course, a living hell, because of the lack of state propaganda in terms of ideology, many to some extent cosplay Caucasians and their national dialect (they talk like mentally retarded, not a gram like a mountaineer, but, nevertheless, considering it funny among themselves)
p.s. These are millionaires ticktakers, the most famous mentally retarded people in our segment of the Internet, unfortunately popular among residents of Moscow and some rural residents who imitate them
Талантливый Молчун 1 пост 81 49666190
81 49666190>>59162 (OP)
average Ruski does not know him
average Ruski does not know him
Насмешливая Тян 9 постов 82 49666286
82 49666286>>65633
Look at the statistics of the site, if there is one, in my opinion, dvach is not so popular in the Russian Federation, the main ones in popularity are VK.com and the telegram messenger, however, a lot of original news information comes from here, because local anons are very dependent on public opinion, and they often spread some information known only to them or recognized by them before others.
Look at the statistics of the site, if there is one, in my opinion, dvach is not so popular in the Russian Federation, the main ones in popularity are VK.com and the telegram messenger, however, a lot of original news information comes from here, because local anons are very dependent on public opinion, and they often spread some information known only to them or recognized by them before others.
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>>65633
Exactly
I mentioned fat dummies by the gambling machines in Finland for a reason. Because that’s the way of life most russians and all of ryssät live: you drop your coins (=your working hours =you time =your earthly life, some extra-school lesson of economics, haha :D) into the unknown and wait for your millions. Once you have those, you tell everyone you worked hard to gain them and did it on your own
The main difference between the gambling in Finland with ours the Finnish prime minister and a bus driver have the same chances to win; in soviet russia, the machine gambles with you: if one’s lucky enough to have friends with the machine’s owner, one will prosper. On the resources which are not enough for everyone, hence most of people are not wanted by the systems, as you precisely described it. My best again, good day to you too
PS NL for Neuvostolitto may be mistaken for the Netherlands, better SU or simply the Soviet Union. Prostitution is good, much safer than regular relationships imho xDD never used their services though
>Ruskis are getting fed up with the dreams of elite
Exactly
I mentioned fat dummies by the gambling machines in Finland for a reason. Because that’s the way of life most russians and all of ryssät live: you drop your coins (=your working hours =you time =your earthly life, some extra-school lesson of economics, haha :D) into the unknown and wait for your millions. Once you have those, you tell everyone you worked hard to gain them and did it on your own
The main difference between the gambling in Finland with ours the Finnish prime minister and a bus driver have the same chances to win; in soviet russia, the machine gambles with you: if one’s lucky enough to have friends with the machine’s owner, one will prosper. On the resources which are not enough for everyone, hence most of people are not wanted by the systems, as you precisely described it. My best again, good day to you too
PS NL for Neuvostolitto may be mistaken for the Netherlands, better SU or simply the Soviet Union. Prostitution is good, much safer than regular relationships imho xDD never used their services though
# OP 84 49667589
>>66088
Could it be, that the propaganda ain't just so visible that it used to be? One could argue that Russian state spends _alot_ of resources to propaganda. It must show somewhere, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFh6390gLNA
Also: propaganda works the best when people don't realize it's propaganda, but instead acting out of their own will.
And no, I'm not a spy. Just having an another virtual trip in learning the Russian culture (doing my own research.) I'd guess Finnish intelligence services don't do anything with knowledge that can probably be already found from public sources anyways.
All tho if you have any secrets to share, I'm eager to hear. :D
>>66760
Yeah I know, it's a bad translation by Twitter. Wouldn't use it myself when talking in english.
And yeah that's pretty much how I've understood Russian system. I've heard that the more you climb up the ladder, the more you are allowed to "steal" from the system. It's called "sawing" if I've understood correctly, idk if that's a right translation tho.
Maybe that's also how the system imprisons everyone who climbs the ladder? They could always be charged with something, if they try to rebel.
Could it be, that the propaganda ain't just so visible that it used to be? One could argue that Russian state spends _alot_ of resources to propaganda. It must show somewhere, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFh6390gLNA
Also: propaganda works the best when people don't realize it's propaganda, but instead acting out of their own will.
And no, I'm not a spy. Just having an another virtual trip in learning the Russian culture (doing my own research.) I'd guess Finnish intelligence services don't do anything with knowledge that can probably be already found from public sources anyways.
All tho if you have any secrets to share, I'm eager to hear. :D
>>66760
Yeah I know, it's a bad translation by Twitter. Wouldn't use it myself when talking in english.
And yeah that's pretty much how I've understood Russian system. I've heard that the more you climb up the ladder, the more you are allowed to "steal" from the system. It's called "sawing" if I've understood correctly, idk if that's a right translation tho.
Maybe that's also how the system imprisons everyone who climbs the ladder? They could always be charged with something, if they try to rebel.
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85 49668010Dugin is someone who made up a "fourth position" because he was too afraid to affiliate himself with the 3rd position (Fascism, Corporatism). His stated criticisms of the 3rd position are very weak. His "4th position" and the 3rd position are not too dissimilar. He isn't very well known in Russia and the average Russian on this website doesn't really care or know much about him. If you'd like to see a full review of what he is about I recommend watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzakuPC38ag&ab_channel=KeithWoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzakuPC38ag&ab_channel=KeithWoods
Ленивая Лиса Патрикеевна 2 поста 86 49668036
86 49668036as pro turkish degenerate clown
/thread
/thread
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87 49668064>>59162 (OP)
Dugin is kind of undeground philosopher, averege russian people can't recognize his "ideas".
Try to check how he spread ideas in modern way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUDmCK78KOY (translate describe for understanding)
By my opinion, he didn't have a lot of connections with reallity (especially with modern chinese-russian relations), his education background and formal knowlage far away from current time, probably 90s-00s style and still didn't update. His propaganda? Only university lvl, no more.
Dugin is kind of undeground philosopher, averege russian people can't recognize his "ideas".
Try to check how he spread ideas in modern way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUDmCK78KOY (translate describe for understanding)
By my opinion, he didn't have a lot of connections with reallity (especially with modern chinese-russian relations), his education background and formal knowlage far away from current time, probably 90s-00s style and still didn't update. His propaganda? Only university lvl, no more.
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88 49668099>>67589
PPS Besides raspil/распил sawing, there’s otkat/откат rollback/recoil (like in cannons) when the climber shares the loot with the supervisors. Sawing is more about sharing between the equal, otkat is between a newcomer/outsider and the systems. And yes: the higher you climb here, the safer you are, since there’s always someone beneath to carry the responsibility in the case of a your fuckup. But once the whole systems falls apart, no one will be safe
PPPS I wish russkies were as well interested in their neighbouring countries’ lives as Finns are informed about life in the rf. Still remember my first song in Finnish about borthday:
Helikopteri lentää, siinä taikuri saapuu,
näyttää ilmaiseksi filmejä.
Hyvää syntymäpäivää mulle toivottaa hän ja
lahjoittaa viisisataa jätskiä
I don’t know any Finnish songs known widely here besides Leekspin girl Yak-tsup-tsop :D
Ok, minä sojtan harmonikkaa and eating the famous soviet ice cream for lunch :3
PPS Besides raspil/распил sawing, there’s otkat/откат rollback/recoil (like in cannons) when the climber shares the loot with the supervisors. Sawing is more about sharing between the equal, otkat is between a newcomer/outsider and the systems. And yes: the higher you climb here, the safer you are, since there’s always someone beneath to carry the responsibility in the case of a your fuckup. But once the whole systems falls apart, no one will be safe
PPPS I wish russkies were as well interested in their neighbouring countries’ lives as Finns are informed about life in the rf. Still remember my first song in Finnish about borthday:
Helikopteri lentää, siinä taikuri saapuu,
näyttää ilmaiseksi filmejä.
Hyvää syntymäpäivää mulle toivottaa hän ja
lahjoittaa viisisataa jätskiä
I don’t know any Finnish songs known widely here besides Leekspin girl Yak-tsup-tsop :D
Ok, minä sojtan harmonikkaa and eating the famous soviet ice cream for lunch :3
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89 49668248>>67589
На Невзорова ссылатьсять это конечно сюр) Дядя просто говорит то, что от него хотят услышать, но с очень уверенным лицом и общим ощущением того, что он знает все. По факту просто балабол, который сделал ставку не на тот политический лагерь и сейчас, вместо жития на заграничной даче, где-нибудь в Италии как тот же Соловьев, получает ответ в виде гнобления и со стороны его оппонентов и со стороны тех, кому он вылизывает задницу
На Невзорова ссылатьсять это конечно сюр) Дядя просто говорит то, что от него хотят услышать, но с очень уверенным лицом и общим ощущением того, что он знает все. По факту просто балабол, который сделал ставку не на тот политический лагерь и сейчас, вместо жития на заграничной даче, где-нибудь в Италии как тот же Соловьев, получает ответ в виде гнобления и со стороны его оппонентов и со стороны тех, кому он вылизывает задницу
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90 49668483His works on anthropology and theoretical philosophy are exellent. His lectures on Plato, Heidegger are joy to watch. His ‘Noomakhia’ theory about the three logoi, which expands on Nietzsche’s war between Appolo vs Dionyssys, merges it with Jung’s archetypes and Durand’s Imaginaire is one of the most interesting concepts i’ve seen lately.
HOWEVER, when Dugin comes down from theory to real world politics his statements are pure distilled cringe.
HOWEVER, when Dugin comes down from theory to real world politics his statements are pure distilled cringe.
Подлая Мегумин 2 поста 91 49668686
91 49668686>>68010
His 4th political theory is basically “we should go back to pre Westphalia-treaty world with blackplaguejack and feudal hierarchy”. But when asked “How?” he starts mumbling something about daseign and tries to dodge.
His 4th political theory is basically “we should go back to pre Westphalia-treaty world with blackplaguejack and feudal hierarchy”. But when asked “How?” he starts mumbling something about daseign and tries to dodge.
Умный Капитан Вселенная 2 поста 92 49668818
92 49668818>>68686
Yeah, it's really weak. His actual real-world politics aren't very good. He specializes in the niches.
Yeah, it's really weak. His actual real-world politics aren't very good. He specializes in the niches.
Глупый Уильям Сейр 4 поста 93 49668881
93 49668881>>63864
True story. But it was happened by total poverty which spawns stealing.
No, this is bullshit
Special taste of soviet icecream was a taste of margarine. Soviet industry hasn't produced enought butter, so it was substituted by syntetic margarine in many kinds of food
> to swich 'em into working ones
True story. But it was happened by total poverty which spawns stealing.
> He got 25 years sentence in the gulags.
No, this is bullshit
> Apparently soviet icecream was good tho?
Special taste of soviet icecream was a taste of margarine. Soviet industry hasn't produced enought butter, so it was substituted by syntetic margarine in many kinds of food
35 Кб, 1028x658 # OP 94 49669949>>68010
Thanks for the link, I'll watch it asap.
Idk if the west has paid too much attention on him, but anyways, it seems like his theories somewhat give a framework to understand the actions of Russian elite tho.
>>68064
Would you like to elaborate your point with Dugin being out of touch with Sino-Russian relations?
>>68099
Well that's interesting.
May I ask, is this only done by the state officials/institutions? Or does the private enterprises do this as well? Like could I run a business in Russia, without ending up having to work with corruption?
If you look from Finnish perspective, I think we kinda have to be well informed when it comes to Russia (and also west). And also inform others. If not, that can equal to bad voting -> bad decisions. That's kinda how democracy brings the decision making in the very personal level.
My personal opinion is that every Finn should come and have one discussion with Ruskis in 2ch.hk. Just to break some stereotypes and prejudice, if nothing else.
Btw, why is the soviet ice cream so famous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yh9i0PAjck
>>68483
Just a thought: maybe his political ideas are ordered as a custom work. I get the feeling from his political ideas, that he is simply trying too much to bring someone else's "idea alive". Like he was forced to explain everything together, by whatever means possible. Sure, it can be done, if you are intelligent.
But I'd be damned if I was the only one feeling like he is trying to deceive his audience. And no, Dugin ain't the only philosopher in the exact same sense.
Thanks for the link, I'll watch it asap.
Idk if the west has paid too much attention on him, but anyways, it seems like his theories somewhat give a framework to understand the actions of Russian elite tho.
>>68064
>he didn't have a lot of connections with reallity (especially with modern chinese-russian relations)
Would you like to elaborate your point with Dugin being out of touch with Sino-Russian relations?
>>68099
Well that's interesting.
May I ask, is this only done by the state officials/institutions? Or does the private enterprises do this as well? Like could I run a business in Russia, without ending up having to work with corruption?
If you look from Finnish perspective, I think we kinda have to be well informed when it comes to Russia (and also west). And also inform others. If not, that can equal to bad voting -> bad decisions. That's kinda how democracy brings the decision making in the very personal level.
My personal opinion is that every Finn should come and have one discussion with Ruskis in 2ch.hk. Just to break some stereotypes and prejudice, if nothing else.
Btw, why is the soviet ice cream so famous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yh9i0PAjck
>>68483
Just a thought: maybe his political ideas are ordered as a custom work. I get the feeling from his political ideas, that he is simply trying too much to bring someone else's "idea alive". Like he was forced to explain everything together, by whatever means possible. Sure, it can be done, if you are intelligent.
But I'd be damned if I was the only one feeling like he is trying to deceive his audience. And no, Dugin ain't the only philosopher in the exact same sense.
Буйный Дрянинг 1 пост 95 49670182
95 49670182>>59162 (OP)
По какой-то причине за пределами России совершенно не понимают, кто у нас в политической жизни имеет вес, а кто - нет.
Мне смешно, когда я читаю в западных СМИ про идеолого России Дугина, или про опору Путина - байкеров "Ночные волки". Все они местечковые знаменитости, которых слушают совсем немного поклонников.
Зато ты не знаешь про Суркова или Кириенко.
Я правда не знаю, почему важные у нас фигуры вами не замечаются, а малозначимым деятелям вы придаёте несоизмеримо большой вес.
По какой-то причине за пределами России совершенно не понимают, кто у нас в политической жизни имеет вес, а кто - нет.
Мне смешно, когда я читаю в западных СМИ про идеолого России Дугина, или про опору Путина - байкеров "Ночные волки". Все они местечковые знаменитости, которых слушают совсем немного поклонников.
Зато ты не знаешь про Суркова или Кириенко.
Я правда не знаю, почему важные у нас фигуры вами не замечаются, а малозначимым деятелям вы придаёте несоизмеримо большой вес.
15 Кб, 362x294 # OP 96 49670588>>70182
У нас есть много работы в нашей собственной философии и политике самой по себе. Если я хочу узнать о современных западных мыслителях, мне достаточно просто послушать, как они говорят, или прочитать об их мыслях. Если мне слишком скучно читать, я могу выбрать из огромного арсенала звуковых книг для прослушивания.
Когда дело доходит до России, всегда существует языковой барьер. И он толстый. Таким образом, мы легко остаемся с подержанными источниками. Если я хочу почитать например Дугина, то в ближайшей библиотеке есть буквально 1 его книга (и она по финно-угорской истории видимо.)
Во-вторых, и это может показаться очень поверхностным, это личный культ, окружающий Путина. Когда жители Запада думают о России, мы в основном рассматриваем Россию как диктатуру. Имя Дугина часто упоминается как «главный пропагандист/главный идеолог». Я слышал, как его называли «путинскими ушами, мозгами и Распутиным».
Но если честно, это хороший вопрос. Что вы думаете?
У нас есть много работы в нашей собственной философии и политике самой по себе. Если я хочу узнать о современных западных мыслителях, мне достаточно просто послушать, как они говорят, или прочитать об их мыслях. Если мне слишком скучно читать, я могу выбрать из огромного арсенала звуковых книг для прослушивания.
Когда дело доходит до России, всегда существует языковой барьер. И он толстый. Таким образом, мы легко остаемся с подержанными источниками. Если я хочу почитать например Дугина, то в ближайшей библиотеке есть буквально 1 его книга (и она по финно-угорской истории видимо.)
Во-вторых, и это может показаться очень поверхностным, это личный культ, окружающий Путина. Когда жители Запада думают о России, мы в основном рассматриваем Россию как диктатуру. Имя Дугина часто упоминается как «главный пропагандист/главный идеолог». Я слышал, как его называли «путинскими ушами, мозгами и Распутиным».
Но если честно, это хороший вопрос. Что вы думаете?
Гордый Глеб Жиглов 10 постов 97 49670685
97 49670685>>69949
It is the fabric our society is made of.
You have to deal with corrupt officials even when you want to have a tooth healed at a local state dentist. In StP, in 2nd country’s city. If you behave well (=pay extra for a “free” service), she’ll heal your tooth (don’t expect it to be left alone, because those are gonna be russian/Chinese materials and medicals AND because she will wait for you to come again), otherwise you can stay with a hole in your gum. Or pay four times the price at a private doctor
Or pay twice the price in Novgorod. Why the prices in Novgorod are so cheap? Well, because a local dentist pays twice less the bribe to open the business, and the building companies which build dentist clinics pay twice less the bribe for the license to build. Officials in Novgorod are simply less greedy :3
Agree 100%, the more you know, the better the decisions you make
Because that was one of a very few distractions everyone could afford. And that ice cream was not that marvelous as many say, modern ice creams are made of better milk and fats. Just another nostalgic vibe, same as when people move to a bigger city from a smaller one and miss some stupid but familiar things like father’s Lada or chewing tar
Don’t make me cry, I’m nostalgically missing my local network and my 2004... :DDD Funny enough, native Karelian speakers can’t understand the lyrics
>only done by state
It is the fabric our society is made of.
You have to deal with corrupt officials even when you want to have a tooth healed at a local state dentist. In StP, in 2nd country’s city. If you behave well (=pay extra for a “free” service), she’ll heal your tooth (don’t expect it to be left alone, because those are gonna be russian/Chinese materials and medicals AND because she will wait for you to come again), otherwise you can stay with a hole in your gum. Or pay four times the price at a private doctor
Or pay twice the price in Novgorod. Why the prices in Novgorod are so cheap? Well, because a local dentist pays twice less the bribe to open the business, and the building companies which build dentist clinics pay twice less the bribe for the license to build. Officials in Novgorod are simply less greedy :3
>Finns must know
Agree 100%, the more you know, the better the decisions you make
>ice cream
Because that was one of a very few distractions everyone could afford. And that ice cream was not that marvelous as many say, modern ice creams are made of better milk and fats. Just another nostalgic vibe, same as when people move to a bigger city from a smaller one and miss some stupid but familiar things like father’s Lada or chewing tar
>Polkka
Don’t make me cry, I’m nostalgically missing my local network and my 2004... :DDD Funny enough, native Karelian speakers can’t understand the lyrics
Насмешливая Тян 9 постов 98 49670999
98 49670999>>70685
Глебыч, я хуею с твоей работы на дваче, честн слово, такого откровенного пиздежа я не встречал уже давно
Глебыч, я хуею с твоей работы на дваче, честн слово, такого откровенного пиздежа я не встречал уже давно
Распущенный Фикс 1 пост 99 49671013
99 49671013>>59162 (OP)
Дугин — шизофреник.
Дугин — шизофреник.
Двуличный Чонси Олдридж 1 пост 101 49671237
101 49671237>>59162 (OP)
I see you here very often already and I'm interested in a few things
1. How did you find out about 2ch?
2. Why are you a Russophobe? You use the word "Ruski", it is used by Russophobes, it is obvious. What has Russia done to you? The Finnish government on the wave of anti-Russian hysteria is doing more harm to Finland than Russia itself, and you know this very well yourself.
3. Why are you so interested in the topic of Russia, right up to fanaticism, I see that you often sit here, with clearly negative statements towards the Russian people
P.S if you are hohol who mows under the Finn, giving a sign
I see you here very often already and I'm interested in a few things
1. How did you find out about 2ch?
2. Why are you a Russophobe? You use the word "Ruski", it is used by Russophobes, it is obvious. What has Russia done to you? The Finnish government on the wave of anti-Russian hysteria is doing more harm to Finland than Russia itself, and you know this very well yourself.
3. Why are you so interested in the topic of Russia, right up to fanaticism, I see that you often sit here, with clearly negative statements towards the Russian people
P.S if you are hohol who mows under the Finn, giving a sign
Наглый Чаки 3 поста 102 49671342
102 49671342>>59162 (OP)
Дугина знают все, но он занимает очень мало место в информационном рационе. Просто бородатый философ, у которого есть небольшая группа последователей, и про которого делают мемы.
Не знаю, почему Дугина так возвеличивают в Европе. КТо-нибудь видел его с Путиным? Или Дугин часто бывает в Кремле?
Да, может быть Дугин создал себе образ человека, который близок к Путину, но это не так. Если ты возразишь мне, что политика в России идёт по Дугинсокму сценарию, то я предложу тебе почитать Виктора Пелевина, или Владимира Сорокина, так как они тоже пишут о том, как будет существовать Россия дальше.
Вообще, правда попробуй почитать Пелевина ("Жёлтая стрела", "Затворник и Шестипалый", "Омон-Ра") и Сорокина (у него можно взять совершенно любую книгу, например трилогию "Лёд").
Можешь ещё погуглить Пучкова и Галковского.
Дугина знают все, но он занимает очень мало место в информационном рационе. Просто бородатый философ, у которого есть небольшая группа последователей, и про которого делают мемы.
Не знаю, почему Дугина так возвеличивают в Европе. КТо-нибудь видел его с Путиным? Или Дугин часто бывает в Кремле?
Да, может быть Дугин создал себе образ человека, который близок к Путину, но это не так. Если ты возразишь мне, что политика в России идёт по Дугинсокму сценарию, то я предложу тебе почитать Виктора Пелевина, или Владимира Сорокина, так как они тоже пишут о том, как будет существовать Россия дальше.
Вообще, правда попробуй почитать Пелевина ("Жёлтая стрела", "Затворник и Шестипалый", "Омон-Ра") и Сорокина (у него можно взять совершенно любую книгу, например трилогию "Лёд").
Можешь ещё погуглить Пучкова и Галковского.
Наглый Чаки 3 поста 103 49671428
103 49671428>>70588
Если так говорят, то это ещё не значит, что это так и есть.
> Имя Дугина часто упоминается как «главный пропагандист/главный идеолог». Я слышал, как его называли «путинскими ушами, мозгами и Распутиным».
Если так говорят, то это ещё не значит, что это так и есть.
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